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Bagged Compost vs Farm Direct Manure

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John Curtin of Spade Work : From Plot to Plate fame wrote a post recently asking readers the question Bagged Compost or Farmers' Manure?. Choosing between sterile crap and organic crap!

It's actually a question that I thought would have had much more heated debate as gardeners jostled to have their opinions heard. Nevertheless, it did uncover some great thoughts and topics for further discussion.

Patrick from Bifurcated Carrots made a poignant claim that manure can carry the E. coli virus. So true in fact that it is quite possibly the reason for the recent outbreak in spinach which killed 3 people and made hundreds sick.

Now, no gardener wants to unwittingly introduce a deadly pathogen into their vegetable patch so it would seem that sales of bagged compost are set to skyrocket. Gardeners just won't take the risk.

But, if gardeners and agriculturalists have been using the stuff for centuries, even millennia, and bagged compost uses it as a main ingredient, why would you steer clear of it? My take on buying bagged compost is the same as buying a pre-packaged pizza over making one yourself. The homemade variety wins every time.

I would much prefer to use farm manure any day. So how do you eliminate the risk of carrying bacteria?

Steven from Dirt Sun Rain [link removed] stated that he would much prefer using manure - typical organic gardener! - and mentioned that it needed to be composted before using it. What does this require and how do you know you've composted it enough to be rid of any unwanted nasties?

Heat and time are the keys. The Organic Trade Association gave these clues on knowing how to compost your manure;


Compost should be maintained at temperatures of 55-60 degrees C (130 -149 degrees F) for a period of several days--if possible up to two weeks [emphasis added] (Droffner, et al, 1995). Composting reduces pathogens in several different ways. One way is by generating temperatures unfavorable to the undesirable organisms. Temperature increases during composting are the result of microbial metabolism. The temperatures generated have the benefit of reducing populations of many pathogenic organisms."

Obviously once the manure has been composted; the heap needs to cool down before applying it to your garden. But once this process has been completed you can feel safe in the knowledge that the only thing you're introducing into your garden is safe and helpful for you and your plants.

What do you prefer? Are you willing to buy bagged compost or would you rather source some animal manures? Are you prepared to put in a little effort and do you think the effort is worth it?






Comments

Is it only in my reading of the post that there seems to be some confusion between MANURE and COMPOST? To my mind they are two quite different things; or are they being sold with 'interchangeable' labels?

My interpretation is that animal Manures contain little vegetable matter other than the actual feed eaten by the animal, whereas Compost is primarily vegetable matter with possibly the addition of some animal manure. However, I stand to be corrected if needs be.

I have used bought manure (cow or poultry) directly on garden beds occasionally, but would much prefer to mix it into my own compost heaps as this not only adds nutritionally to the compost but also accelerates the breaking down of vegetable matter.

Your interpretation is correct Alice. They are two very different things.

When you say that you "bought manure" was this packaged manure or direct from "the horse's stable" - so to speak?

If it was packaged, then there shouldn't be any problems with it as the processor would have already composted it and it should be fine to automatically add to your garden beds.

Stuart, I've actually done both. Bought sheep and horse manure from stable or farm, which I've always used in the compost heap, and processed cow and chicken manure which I've sometimes used directly on the garden, but more often in the compost heap.

Same here Alice. I find I have more peace of mind composting manures than assuming whether the producer has already done this well.

Personally, I have enjoyed terrific results using horse manure "right from the barn" on my flower beds. I'm not concerned with bacteria (because I don't grow vegetables), and horses don't digest as efficiently as cows, so the manure isn't as "hot" in nitrogen content to burn plants. Once in awhile I may get a weed seed here and there, but it's no big deal to pull them, and some are wildflowers that I like! As for e. coli...my mom and I used to put pony manure around our tomatoes, and simply washing them took care of any dangers. I think the spinach problem may have come from growers using stronger fertilizers, such as "composted" human waste from processing plants (I HAVE seen this done!), also I feel that many people think that "pre-washed" greens are washed good enough...I never take that for granted and always wash it again!

RE: using composted horse manure... I am trying to learn what extra precautions must be used to kill the worm poison that horses ingest & then send out in their manure. Anybody know?

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